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		<title>Gwist TV &#8212; Gay Mormon Confessionals</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 04:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams I was a recent guest on Howard Bragman&#8217;s web series Gwissues to discuss if Mormons are in fact, giving up their anti-gay crusade.  I was joined by Dustin Lance Black and Stephen Mansfield, the author of The &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/05/10/gwist-tv-gay-mormon-confessionals/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1217&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
<p>I was a recent guest on Howard Bragman&#8217;s web series <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Gwissues">Gwissues</a> to discuss if Mormons are in fact, <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/prop-8-mormons-gay-marriage-shift">giving up their anti-gay crusade</a>.  I was joined by <a href="http://www.dustinlanceblack.com/">Dustin Lance Black</a> and <a href="http://mansfieldgroup.com/stephen-mansfield-the-mormonizing-of-america/">Stephen Mansfield</a>, the author of The Mormonizing of America. I know this topic raises a lot of skepticism among many. Rightly so. Please watch and share your comments.  Is the Mormon Church just playing nice to side-step bad PR?</p>
<p>Enjoy</p>
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		<title>&#8220;United We Stand!&#8221; or &#8220;who is that ugly troll giving me the finger!?&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams So here I am at the Utah Capitol, being interviewed by everybody’s favorite newscaster Ben Winslow on Fox 13.  I’m being extremely eloquent, laying out my prophetic vision regarding the American cultural shift toward full LGBT equality &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/03/14/united-we-stand-or-who-is-that-ugly-dick-giving-me-the-finger/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1204&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
<div id="attachment_1205" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 650px"><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/483646_10200394669325072_2104140653_n.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1205" alt="483646_10200394669325072_2104140653_n" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/483646_10200394669325072_2104140653_n.jpg?w=640&#038;h=358" width="640" height="358" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">photo by Ben Winslow, Fox 13</p></div>
<p>So here I am at the Utah Capitol, being interviewed by everybody’s favorite newscaster Ben Winslow on Fox 13.  I’m being extremely eloquent, laying out my prophetic vision regarding the American cultural shift toward full LGBT equality and blah blah blah…WTF?</p>
<p>Some asshat in the background is photo-bombing my big moment!</p>
<p>He kept his finger out during my entire interview!  Ben couldn’t broadcast a single frame of my spectacular oratory all because of this Cro-magnon moron!  I later discovered that he was walking around our entire “United We Stand” rally making crude gestures in front of the cameras. Trying to ruin our moment.</p>
<p>This, my friends is what an Internet troll looks like.  He is the creep on the comment boards that calls Obama a socialist and gay parents pedophiles.  He’s the kind of guy who wants the government to get its hands off his mother’s Medicare.  He also loved Good Day to Die Hard and has stashed under his mattress a collection of barnyard porn.</p>
<p>When I look at this subtle display of red-neck sophistication I can see clearly the character of the men and women aligned against us.</p>
<p>And I know we are winning.</p>
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<p>But he couldn’t spoil the day.  No way.  The afternoon was beautiful.  How can you beat hanging out at the Capitol with some of Utah’s most inspiring citizens?</p>
<p>Looking out at the ethnically diverse crowd I couldn’t help but think of Harvey Milk’s “coalition of Us&#8217;es” &#8212; the marginalized few who stand together against all odds.</p>
<p>Jani Iwamoto spoke about Japanese interment in Utah, Jeannette Williams from NAACP reminded us how her people moved from slavery to freedom, Archie Archuleta from the Utah Coalition of LaRaza ignited us together in solidarity, and Berta Marquez from Mormons Building Bridges recalled the persecution that drove Latter-day Saints west.</p>
<p>All of these groups represent people that have historically faced persecution.  They stood together with us and demanded an end to LGBT discrimination in Utah.</p>
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<p>It was brilliant.</p>
<p>SB 262, our bill that would have ended LGBT workplace and housing discrimination in Utah, historically made it out of committee, but our legislators were too cowardly to take it to the Senate floor.  They were too busy finding ways to kill wolves and reject federal healthcare money for low-income Utahans.</p>
<p>That’s the Utah Legislature for you.  Reactionary, xenophobic and absolutely determined to stick it to the feds, even at the cost of their own people.</p>
<p>But there were bright spots on the LGBT front this session.  Mormon Republican Steve Uruqhart surprised many in his party by standing up to sponsor the bill.  He’s no leftist radical.  He’s a conservative guy who believes that every person in Utah should have a fair shot.</p>
<p>That gives me hope.</p>
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<p>Of course the xenophobes have more influence in the Legislature than we do for the time being.  They serve their ideological constituents, men like my photo-bombing troll.  So I don’t worry too much.  I see where we are headed as a nation.  We can move forward with every confidence that we will soon see full equality for all LGBT Americans in all fifty states – and yes, that includes Utah.</p>
<p>The work is not over.  This isn’t the end, but a midway point down the road.  And there is more to do.  We must educate our representatives.  Come out and talk with our families.  Tell our friends. Confide with our co-workers.  Live authentically.</p>
<p>We all need to do our part.  It’s easy.  Click on over to <a href="http://www.utahvalues.org/">UtahValues.org</a> and find ways to communicate with your legislators.  Keep the dialogue going.  Because we are coming back next year and we won’t stop.</p>
<p>Ever.</p>
<p>A big shout out to Brandie Balken and Jim Dabakis and so many more at Equality Utah.  They truly understand the importance of coalition building.  They work in a spirit of collaboration and have no desire to take the glory for themselves.  They work tirelessly to unite the “use’es” – against all odds.</p>
<div id="attachment_1209" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 650px"><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/625524_10151775219834027_1076375252_n.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-1209" alt="Brandie Balken inspires the crowd! " src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/625524_10151775219834027_1076375252_n.jpg?w=640&#038;h=426" width="640" height="426" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Brandie Balken inspires the crowd!</p></div>
<div id="attachment_1210" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 650px"><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/657_10151775219894027_313386616_n.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-1210" alt="657_10151775219894027_313386616_n" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/657_10151775219894027_313386616_n.jpg?w=640&#038;h=426" width="640" height="426" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dabakis charms the media.</p></div>
<p>They are my heroes.</p>
<p>I also want to take a sec and tell the world that I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m gay!  Because if I wasn&#8217;t, I&#8217;d never have the most adorable, sweet, handsome and amazing boyfriend ever!  I&#8217;m pretty blessed.</p>
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<p>Gay is Great!</p>
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		<title>Big Shiny Robot: My thoughts on Orson Scott Card writing Superman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams I was interviewed this week by Bryan Young the editor-in-chief of Big Shiny Robot on the recent controversy over sci-fi author and rabid homophobe Orson Scott Card writing a Superman comic. Bryan asked me to weigh in &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/02/27/big-shiny-robot-my-thoughts-on-orson-scott-card-writing-superman/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1195&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I was interviewed this week by Bryan Young the editor-in-chief of <a href="http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/"><strong>Big Shiny Robot</strong></a> on the recent controversy over sci-fi author and rabid homophobe Orson Scott Card writing a Superman comic. Bryan asked me to weigh in on efforts by many comic fans to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/14/orson-scott-card-superman-boycott">boycott</a> the issue.  Read the full article in the new Salt Lake <a href="http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-404-17182-comics-controversy.html">City Weekly.  </a></p>
<p>Bryan writes:</p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;">I’m conflicted about this [boycott]. While I agree that Card’s opposition to equal rights is despicable, I have an easy time separating artists from their art if I like it. It’s why I still love Roman Polanski films. I’m doubly conflicted as I took many a creative-writing seminar taught by Card in my school days, and he was always a perfectly wonderful, charming guy and a reasonably good writer. </span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;">To help me sort through my disgust with Card’s medieval views on love and my much more modern love of Superman, I turned to Troy Williams, public affairs director for KRCL and fellow rabid comic nerd, for perspective. </span></em></p>
<p><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;"><em>“Orson Scott Card reminds me a lot of Superman’s archnemesis Lex Luthor, who is also absolutely obsessed with Superman,” Williams says. “Luthor is so consumed by jealousy of Superman that he ultimately spends his entire life fighting against him. Card is also so obsessed with gay people that he works tirelessly to ostracize us from the institutions of American culture. Superman, on the other hand, does not discriminate. He risks his life daily to defend all of us.”</em> </span></p>
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<p>Yup.  That&#8217;s my take.  I believe OSC is outrageously jealous of gays.  I also believe he is schizophrenic.  In one column he advocates <a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700245157/State-job-is-not-to-redefine-marriage.html?pg=all">the overthrow of the U.S. Government</a> &#8220;by whatever means is made possible or necessary&#8221; if gays are allowed to legally marry &#8212; and in the next, decides he must be outraged on behalf of all gays everywhere for how inconsiderately we were portrayed in the film <em>Mamma Mia</em>, <a href="http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/2008-07-20.shtml">which he argues is</a> &#8220;a slap in the face to all gay people.&#8221;</p>
<p>WTF?</p>
<p>Yup.  In his review, Card dismissed the treatment of Colin Firth&#8217;s gay character. &#8220;as a writer, I would never show such disrespect toward a homosexual character as to treat him or her the way <em>Mamma Mia!</em> (and Rowling) treated theirs. Having a gay character, for them, is merely an attempt to show how politically correct they are. In <em>my</em> fiction, having a gay character requires a commitment to treat him or her as fairly and deeply as I treat my straight characters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is it Orson? Gay or anti-gay?  Revolution or Respect? Perhaps, like Batman&#8217;s villain Two-Face, Card just flips the proverbial gay coin to see what side will prevail.  I personally don&#8217;t need OSC to be outraged on my behalf. Though obviously, Card has some deep personal issues centered around homosexuality that he really, really needs to work through.  In that respect, this looks like a job for Superman.</p>
<p>To conclude Bryan&#8217;s column;</p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;">Williams is even more optimistic about the outcome. “In Grant Morrison’s All-Star Superman, Lex Luthor drank a vial that temporarily gave him Superman’s enhanced powers so that he could ultimately destroy him,” he says. “But, unexpectedly, Luthor began for the first time to see the world through Kal-El’s all-inclusive and all-loving eyes. Luthor, for the first time, saw the harmonious structure of everything. Superman’s worldview ultimately offers redemption for his longtime adversary. </span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;">“So, who knows?” Williams continues. “Perhaps if Card spends a few hours inside Superman’s head, thinking his thoughts and writing his words, something powerful will happen. Perhaps Card, like Luthor before him, will have his irrational jealousy and xenophobia annihilated by the pure love and super-enlightenment of Kal-El of Krypton. We can hope.”</span></em></p>
<p><span style="font-family:georgia, times new roman, times, serif;font-size:small;"><em>We certainly can. And we can still skip those two issues of Superman. Boycott notwithstanding, if you’ve read Card’s run on Iron Man, you’ll know you’re probably not going to miss much. </em> </span></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s so great about Superman.  He came to earth to inspire all of us, even super creeps like Lex Luthor and Orson Scott Card.</p>
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		<title>Lincoln on &#8220;the freedom to oppress&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams This afternoon, seeking shelter from the winter storm, I went with friends to see Lincoln. The film was inspiring.  It reminded me how great we can be as a nation when we have the courage to overcome &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/02/24/lincoln-on-the-freedom-to-oppress/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1186&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
<p><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/lincoln-movie-poster-crop.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1187" alt="lincoln-movie-poster-crop" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/lincoln-movie-poster-crop.jpg?w=640&#038;h=333" width="640" height="333" /></a>This afternoon, seeking shelter from the winter storm, I went with friends to see Lincoln. The film was inspiring.  It reminded me how great we can be as a nation when we have the courage to overcome our worst impulses.  It&#8217;s impossible to watch without drawing parallels between Lincoln’s efforts to abolish slavery and the political struggles of contemporary times. And while I recognize there are vast differences in ending slavery and say the current struggle of obtaining full civil equality for LGBT Americans, I can’t help but draw strength from the historical narrative.  The past helps us confront the challenges of our present.</p>
<p>Case in point.  Two weeks ago I spent a half hour up at the Utah Capitol Building with my old mentor and conservative culture warrior, Gayle Ruzika.  I jokingly told her that if she supported a statewide LGBT non-discrimination bill that I would give her my VIP tickets to the next Mormon Tabernacle Choir Christmas concert.</p>
<p>She didn’t budge.</p>
<p>Gayle is committed to protecting her religious freedom.  She told me that if she owned a religious bookstore she wants the freedom to fire a gay employee.  But she did have the caveat that if she ever owned a clothing store she would for sure keep me! She’s just so kind.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this unelected lobbyist has great sway amongst Utah’s elected officials.  And she can strike great fear in their hearts.  She can invoke an angry god whose wrath is kindling against a perverse nation.  She can proclaim that if gays are ever equal then the very freedoms religionists enjoy will be obliterated.  There can be no compromise.  The issue of religious freedom and LGBT equality must remain forever at odds.</p>
<p>As the New Pornographers aptly observed, “now it’s my rights versus yours.”</p>
<p>But can the two be reconciled? Religious organizations don’t want to be sued if they refuse to perform gay marriages, or allow gay adoptions.  I get it.  I just have a hard time accepting why a decent human being want to discriminate in the first place.  Can you imagine in 2013 a Church fighting to maintain the freedom to outlaw black marriages?  or even inter-racial marriages?  Of course not.  Any Church that advocated such a position would become a social pariah.</p>
<p>But that hasn&#8217;t always the case. Certainly not in Lincoln&#8217;s day. Religious ideology was the very rationale used to deny African-Americans the most basic human dignity. Pious believers argued zealously that God had created the Negro to be subservient.  Today they argue that LGBT Americans must be denied access to the most basic of human institutions.</p>
<p>It is still legal in Utah and in many states to discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.   We can be fired from our jobs and evicted from our apartments.  There are protections for race, gender, age, ability and religious affiliation, but not so for sexuality.  Again and again, “religious freedom” is being used as an excuse to justify ugly, exclusionary public policies.</p>
<p>Religions are terrified that if the Supreme Court strikes down both DOMA and Prop 8 they will be forced to marry gay people.  They want exemptions.  They want the freedom to discriminate.</p>
<p>Religions survive by crafting clear boundaries of In-group vs. Out-group.  Good vs. evil.  Pious vs. Deviant.  White vs. Black.  Man vs. Woman.  Gay vs. Straight.</p>
<p>Geezus, these endless battles are exhausting!</p>
<p>And I don’t buy the religious freedom argument. I grew up in Mormonism.  I can’t imagine Jesus, Nephi, Moroni or Joseph Smith ever advocating the right to exclude a marginalized population.  They all understood persecution.  They were the victims of discrimination and hatred. They endured violence at the hands of their oppressors.  Even before the threat of swords, bullets and angry mobs, they all taught a message of love and peace.</p>
<p>Let the religiously fortified walls of bigotry fall.</p>
<p>There are some freedoms that should be forever lost to the dustbin of history; namely the freedom to discriminate and oppress.</p>
<p>It is an idea that is beautifully expressed in Tony Kushner’s screenplay of Lincoln.  While contemplating the urgency to end a war and pass the 13<sup>th</sup> Amendment to abolish slavery, the president argues,</p>
<p><em>“If we submit ourselves to law, even submit to losing freedoms, the freedom to oppress, for instance, we may discover other freedoms previously unknown to us.”</em></p>
<p>It’s an idea that we must seize and proclaim to every legislator, bishop, priest, rabbi and cardinal.  Yield your freedom to oppress.  Yield your xenophobia.  Who knows?  You may discover an opportunity to live the fullest expression of your faith.</p>
<p>You may discover that the blessings of equality, justice, inclusion and freedom may actually liberate us all.</p>
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		<title>Ships Gonna Sail: Remembering Utah Phillips and Joe Hill</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams Listen to the new RadioActive short on Utah Phillips and the final remains of Joe Hill: One was a labor organizer who was executed in Salt Lake City, an early casualty of the American class war.  The &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/01/12/ships-gonna-sail-remembering-utah-phillips-and-joe-hill/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1170&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Listen to the new RadioActive short on Utah Phillips and the final remains of Joe Hill:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">One was a labor organizer who was executed in Salt Lake City, an early casualty of the American class war.  The other was a folk-singer and hobo who once made a home in Salt Lake City but was later black-listed and forced out of town.  They both inspired laborers to organize and fight for their rights.</p>
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<p>Joe Hill and Utah Phillips are synonymous with the labor movement.  Their stories and songs ignited a people to resist injustice. Hill famously said at his execution, &#8220;don&#8217;t mourn, organize.&#8221;  Phillips was fond of saying, “The state can&#8217;t give you freedom, and the state can&#8217;t take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free&#8230;”</p>
<p>Back in the 80&#8242;s when Phillips discovered a portion of the ashes of Joe Hill were stored in the National Archive, he along with the president of the IWW set out to liberate his remains.  They did so, and before they mailed Hill&#8217;s ashes around the world, Utah took a pinch and laid them to rest inside the body of his old road-weary guitar.</p>
<p>Utah Phillips passed away in 2007.  His guitar and legacy live on through his son, Duncan, who still performs his father&#8217;s stories and songs.  I&#8217;ve known Duncan for years.  We traveled to Ft. Benning, GA several years ago to participate in the annual <a href="http://www.soaw.org/">School of the Americas </a>protest in 2004.  It was there that I first met Utah Phillips &#8212; the grand-fatherly story-teller, with signature red plaid shirt and brown fedora.  I was rather new then to the social justice activist world, and the three days I spent with him were life-changing.</p>
<p>I asked Utah if he ever knew a time worse than ours (we were then in the heat of Bush&#8217;s war on terror). He smiled at my naive question and told me the story of Labor &#8212; a rich history that I was, for the most part, largely ignorant.</p>
<p>He told me the story of Sojourner Truth &#8212; the abolitionist and women&#8217;s rights advocate.</p>
<p>Then he told me about Mother Jones &#8212; the child labor activist.</p>
<p>And then Joe Hill.</p>
<p>Utah told me that we were all building a ship &#8212; and even though we may not be on board when it sails, that we need to build it anyway.  It was the story that he had put to verse,</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Ship Gonna Sail&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Chorus:</strong> </em></p>
<p><strong><em>Workin on a ship, may never sail on.</em></strong><br />
<strong><em> Ships gonna sail, gonna sail someday.</em></strong><br />
<strong><em> Workin on a ship, may never sail on.</em></strong><br />
<strong><em> Gonna build it anyway.</em></strong></p>
<p>Utah&#8217;s stories placed our own lives into historical context.  Women&#8217;s rights activists, labor organizers, peace and justice activists, environmentalists, LGBT rabble-rousers &#8212; we are all connected, we are all engaged in the same struggle.  I never truly understood the interconnectedness of social movements until that fateful weekend.</p>
<div id="attachment_1176" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 528px"><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/troy_amyray_utahphillips.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1176 " title="Troy Williams, Amy Ray, Utah Phillips" alt="Troy_AmyRay_UtahPhillips" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/troy_amyray_utahphillips.jpg?w=518&#038;h=419" width="518" height="419" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Troy Williams, Amy Ray, Utah Phillips SOAW protest 2004</p></div>
<p>I also owe one other debt to Utah Phillips. He introduced me to Amy Ray from the Indigo Girls.</p>
<p>Last week I went with KRCL&#8217;s Bad Brad Wheeler to visit with Duncan in his home &#8212; to hear Duncan tell the stories of his late father, and to remember the legacy of Utah Phillips.  Duncan keeps the stories alive at <a href="http://thelongmemory.com/">thelongmemory.com.</a>  It was great to see and hear Duncan pick up his father&#8217;s guitar and share the songs and stories that have inspired generations of workers and working class heroes.</p>
<div id="attachment_1177" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 332px"><a href="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/a4e96ed997837b848150b3d6bdb7348f.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1177" title="Duncan Phillips" alt="a4e96ed997837b848150b3d6bdb7348f" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/a4e96ed997837b848150b3d6bdb7348f.jpg?w=640"   /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Duncan Phillips</p></div>
<p>&#8220;Caught dead in Utah&#8221; &#8212; Utah Phillip&#8217;s guitar holds a pinch of the remains of Joe Hill.</p>
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		<title>Catalyst 100</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams A big thanks to CATALYST magazine for including me as one of their &#8220;CATALYST 100&#8243;.  The qualification for nomination being &#8220;those who have made [Utah] a more sustainable, compassionate and vibrant place to live.&#8221; There are many &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2013/01/06/catalyst-100/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1164&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
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<p>A big thanks to <a href="http://catalystmagazine.net/">CATALYST</a> magazine for including me as one of their &#8220;CATALYST 100&#8243;.  The qualification for nomination being &#8220;those who have made [Utah] a more sustainable, compassionate and vibrant place to live.&#8221; There are many people on this list, far more vibrant than me,  but I&#8217;m extremely honored to be numbered with them. It&#8217;s also great to see the fictional character Dottie Dixon, whose misadventures I helped unleash upon the world back in 2009, also making the list.</p>
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<p>CATALYST is a monthly magazine that follows &#8220;the rise of the &#8216;cultural creatives&#8217; — those who take a whole-systems approach to the world&#8217;s ecological, social and spiritual crises.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>SL Tribune names Mormons Building Bridges: 2012 Utahns of the Year</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams A big congratulations to Mormons Building Bridges! The Salt Lake Tribune has named them the 2012 Utahns of the Year.  Well deserved.  Last summer over 300 faithful Latter-day Saints took the brave first step of marching in &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2012/12/25/sl-tribune-names-mormons-building-bridges-2012-utahns-of-the-year/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1158&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>A big congratulations to Mormons Building Bridges! The Salt Lake Tribune has named them the 2012 Utahns of the Year.  Well deserved.  Last summer over 300 faithful Latter-day Saints took the brave first step of marching in our Pride Parade.  Dustin Lance Black and I had the privilege to lead them in the march.  It was an incredibly inspiring and unforgettable experience.  I&#8217;m thrilled that the editors and journalists of the Tribune saw fit to honor their efforts.</p>
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<p>&#8220;They called themselves Mormons Building Bridges. They were not out to debate politics or doctrine, organizers said, but to promote love and listening. Still, their simple yet potent gesture echoed around the globe, setting an example for fellow believers who then took up the style, if not the name, in 15 other Pride parades. They also attracted national and international media attention, well-known enough even for spoofing in the satirical magazine The Onion.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are The Salt Lake Tribune’s Utahns of the Year for 2012.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55512855-78/mormons-gay-bridges-mormon.html.csp">Full Story here.</a></p>
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		<title>Joe McQueen &amp; Willie Moore &#8212; Living History in Ogden</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams Last week I set off north with Ogden&#8217;s favorite son, His Holiness the Reverend Bad Brad Wheeler.  He&#8217;s been telling me for years that I need to go with him to meet the people who truly built &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2012/12/22/joe-mcqueen-willie-moore-living-history-in-ogden/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1147&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
<p>Last week I set off north with Ogden&#8217;s favorite son, His Holiness the Reverend Bad Brad Wheeler.  He&#8217;s been telling me for years that I need to go with him to meet the people who truly built his hometown.   In so doing, Brad assured me, I would learn something incredible about the people of Ogden and the history of civil rights in America. As ever, His Holiness spoke Truth.  We met with two iconic residents to feature on 90.9 FM KRCL&#8217;s <a href="http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/krcl/news.newsmain?action=section&amp;SECTION_ID=1">RadioActive</a>.</p>
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<p>Our first stop was 89 year old Willie Moore &#8212; the legendary barber of 25th Street.  Willie is an Ogden mainstay.  Not only is he a former member of the Harlem Globetrotters but he was also one of the first business owners in Ogden to hire an integrated staff.  He also told us the story of the day Eleanor Roosevelt herself stopped by for a visit.</p>
<p>Have a listen: (3:13)</p>
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<p>Our next stop was to jazz legend Joe McQueen.  Now 94, he is a man still on the move.  McQueen was the first black man to play in white clubs.  As his popularity grew he demanded that any club he play be fully integrated.  He performed with all of the greats &#8212; Duke Ellington, Dizzy Gillespie, Count Basie, and on. McQueen still performs today at the <a href="http://www.garageonbeck.com/event-calander">Garage on Beck</a> and the <a href="http://winecellarogden.com/">Wine Cellar</a> in Ogden.</p>
<p>Have a listen: (3:26)</p>
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<p>McQueen surprised me after our interview &#8212; he pulled out a glass jar from his back room full of moonshine.  It was my first time.  I&#8217;m proud to say I took two shots.  I finally feel fully initiated into manhood, Ogden style.</p>
<p>Thanks to Bad Brad for the history lesson.  And thanks to McQueen for the moonshine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to returning to Ogden again very soon.</p>
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		<title>Wake the Future: 12-21-12</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams The Kali Yuga wanes.  Something new arise. Around me, everywhere are Solar Gods with human eyes. I have upgraded to psychocosmovision: now entering the fifth world singularity time-wave zero-sphere. Gnostic transhumans text via psychic psilocybin super strings. &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2012/12/21/wake-the-future-12-21-12/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1141&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
<p><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1142" alt="154760_4723884530819_383310644_n" src="http://troydwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/154760_4723884530819_383310644_n.jpg?w=410&#038;h=614" width="410" height="614" />The Kali Yuga wanes.  Something new arise.</p>
<p>Around me, everywhere are Solar Gods with human eyes.</p>
<p>I have upgraded to <em>psychocosmovision</em>: now entering the fifth world singularity time-wave zero-sphere.</p>
<p>Gnostic transhumans text via psychic psilocybin super strings. Mayan wormholes collapse into the noosphere&#8217;s foreverness.</p>
<p>Cancel the Apocalypse!</p>
<p>The fiction fire of a Phoenix speaks:</p>
<p>&#8220;You have always been here, waiting for yourself to arrive.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s never been about the end.  It&#8217;s always about our new beginning.</p>
<p>Wake the Future: 12-21-12.</p>
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		<title>Laurine Kingston: Polygamist, Midwife, Champion of Women&#8217;s Rights?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Troy Williams Laurine Ekstrom Kingston, offers a unique window into a closed culture.  She grew up within the Davis County Co-op – also known as the Kingstons &#8212; a group of Fundamentalist Mormons who still adhere to the original &#8230; <a href="http://troydwilliams.com/2012/12/18/laurine-kingston-polygamist-midwife-champion-of-womens-rights/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=troydwilliams.com&#038;blog=14970443&#038;post=1134&#038;subd=troydwilliams&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Troy Williams</p>
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<p><strong>Laurine Ekstrom Kingston</strong>, offers a unique window into a closed culture.  She grew up within the Davis County Co-op – also known as the Kingstons &#8212; a group of Fundamentalist Mormons who still adhere to the original teachings of the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith – including plural marriage.</p>
<p>Today, Laurine is an 81 year old woman who defies many stereotypes.  She was a polygamist, a registered nurse, and then later a midwife – who delivered over two-thousand babies.  But what you’ll also discover is a woman who within her own community became a surprising advocate for women.</p>
<p>She denounced sexual abuse and male authoritarian power.</p>
<p>She discusses life growing up within the Kingston clan – marrying the prophet’s son, becoming a plural wife, – and why she voted for Barack Obama.  Her remarkable life is documented in the new biography <a href="http://signaturebooks.com/2010/04/the-midwife-a-biography-of-laurine-ekstrom-kingston/">The Midwife: The Life of Laurine Ekstrom Kingston</a>, by Victoria Burgess and recently published by Signature Books.</p>
<p>I met with Laurine recently in her farm-house in west Salt Lake County.</p>
<p>Listen to the entire interview here: (27:43)</p>
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<p><b>Troy Williams:</b> You grew up fundamentalist and went to public school – but felt ostracized because you were a <em>different</em> kind of Mormon.  What was it like back in those days?</p>
<p><b>Laurine Ekstrom Kingston:</b> Back in those days it was secret.  Anytime someone says it’s a secret it puts a ceiling on it so you are cautious.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> You were taught that even if an angel were to appear to you&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> Yes. Fear produced it.  It was devastating to children.  The Co-op said “If an angel were to appear to you and ask if you lived polygamy you were to say no.”  When a man took another wife, he acted like he didn’t know her.  He acted like he didn’t know the children. It did not give the children an identity.  I remember my sister and I lived together in a house, and if some stranger came to the door she hid in the backroom so no one knew.  It was just wrong from every aspect.  Then as I started going into other homes I noticed the men were very proud of their children.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> Non-polygamous homes?</p>
<p><strong>LEK</strong>: Yes.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> How did the Law of Consecration work practically? Were all of your needs met?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> I can’t say our needs were taken care of, because we were so poor.  We had a storehouse.  The men were given numbers.  We just got along with whatever we had.  To test us, to see our loyalty the leader would say, “today I want you to meet radishes.  That’s all you get.”  So now that I’m older I can see all this programming and control.  I was talking to my sisters about the fundamentalists in Colorado City.  Some of them indeed would drink poison to be with their leader.  We are concerned that maybe a few people might do that.  It’s amazing the mindsets that people get and how they are educated.  The leaders are brilliant at “educating” and denying and depriving.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> Did the Davis Co-op arrange marriages?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> Yes, they did.  [the founder] Brother Eldon was different than his brother Ortell [his successor].  Ortell really didn’t really like men that much. He liked women.  He was a gentle, soft person.  I was around 13 and he lived in a tent above where I lived.  He taught me to play marbles.  We were good friends.  He didn’t like athletics.  He was reserved and like deep thinking.  He built a kite and he spent hours on that kite.  He just knew it would fly but it never did fly.  Whatever he did it never seemed to work out. And yet he was the one that God told everything?  I remembered when I got involved in midwifery, I would always call him to see if was okay to do such and such – “this women is in labor, she is showing these signs…what do you think I should I do?”  It was amazing to me that in many cases he did not know what to do.  And <em>I</em> did.  But if I did it I was against what the leader said. But I made a decision.  I had the life of a baby and mother in my hands.  They were first in my eyes. I would do what I thought was right.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> Talk about Rowena – you told your husband that you thought he should marry your sister.</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> My husband and I had two children, and then one of the main men in the Co-op came and told me and said “to get more strength in our group you need to live polygamy.”  And later I thought you know if want to live polygamy you may choose it, but to have someone tell you to live it, that’s all wrong.  So we were to obey.  Obedience was #1.  I do know that in a cult group there is a ceiling put on everyone by those in charge.  They do not want anyone to know more than they do.  And if they do, they get rid of them in a round about way.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> Do you consider the Kingston Co-op a cult?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> Yes, I do.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> What was it like when you brought your sister into a plural marriage?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> I knew it was going to be hard.  My mother-in-law lived polygamy.  She tried to prepare me for it.  She told me there was all kinds of trials. That’s how they believe.  You conquer these trials.  You can’t be jealous.  The day you are happy your husband is in the next room with your wife, then you’ve accomplished something.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> And Rowena went on famously to help found Tapestry Against Polygamy.</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> Yes.  I did not know sexual abuse was anywhere.  I was really naïve.  I was in a home delivering a baby and the mom kept looking up at the window like she wasn’t there.  I learned later that was flashbacks.  When her baby was five days old she called me and said, could you see that my children are taken care of, I’m going to commit suicide.  I could tell by the tone of her voice she was almost in a trance.  I said would you take your children and put them in your van and come over to my house.  That’s where it started.</p>
<p>I called Rowena to see if she would put this lady up and take care of her.  Well the woman&#8217;s husband had several wives.  He took this family and had them leave away from the rest.  He said it was because they didn’t obey him.  He wanted to teach her some things to please him that were sexual and far out.  But they were not to associate with anyone else.  When people are taken away that’s a sign something is wrong.  This man did end up being in jail for a while.  That was down in Colorado City.  We had several people come up from there.  I took care of them because it was so controlled down there.</p>
<p><strong> TW:</strong> What was it like when Rowena started Tapestry? Were you supportive of that effort?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> At first I did.  What else could we do? No one would help.</p>
<p><strong>TW:</strong> Was it hard when Rowena left your marriage?</p>
<p><strong>LEK:</strong> She was getting sick and studying why she was getting sick.  She decided it was polygamy that was making her sick.  She was very dramatic, she called us all together and said, “I am divorcing you, this is the end of this.  It’s taking my health.”  To me it was a shock.  However, the Group gave us a choice to get rid of Rowena and all of her children, or we couldn’t come to the functions.  So we chose Rowena.  But Leon still to this day supports her.</p>
<p>Read more about Laurine&#8217;s remarkable life in her new biography, <a href="http://signaturebooks.com/2010/04/the-midwife-a-biography-of-laurine-ekstrom-kingston/">The Midwife.</a></p>
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